Minutes of the Palomar Mountain Planning Organization Meeting
November 18, 1995
Board Members Present:
Thomas Burton, Robert Carlyle, Halcie
Clark, Rich Day (alternate), Donna Dose, Elizabeth Getzoff (alternate),
Bruce Graves, Susan Humason, Nancy Moriarity (alternate), Michael
Pique, Carol Ravenscroft, John Tainer,
The PMPO Board meeting was convened at 10:00 A.M. Saturday November
18,1995. The minutes of the August 19. 1995 meeting were approved.
The treasurer, Halcie Clark, reported a current balance of $9593.75.
Relay Engineering Major Use Permit:
Bruce Graves reported
that in a Pre-Intake Assistance committee meeting, the county staff
recommended against Relay Engineering's proposal to extend their tower
from the existing 35ft to 135ft in height. The County staff also
warned Relay Engineering that the proposed project would require an
Environmental Impact Statement.
Palomar Ranger District Proposal:
The Palomar Ranger District
of the Cleveland National Forest requested comments on their proposal
to allow livestock grazing to continue on the Mendenhall allotment and
to protect the Laguna Mountain skipper butterfly and its host plant
Cleveland horkellia. Carol Ravenscroft will get more
information and will draft a letter for approval by the PMPO.
Membership in Land Trust Alliance:
Approval was voted for
an expenditure of $35 to renew the PMPO's membership in the Land Trust
Alliance, a land conservancy organization.
Mike Pique and George Ravenscroft reported on the
visit to the Yale well site hosted by Jerry McLees for the Project
Planner Maxx Stallheim, the Regional Planner Nancy Whelan, and a
botanist from the County.
A letter from Jerry McLees of Brian Mooney Associates provided the PMPO
with an update on the Yale well project. Following the Pre-Intake
Assistance meeting of November 9th, the County Department of Planning
and Land Use is preparing a letter to Mr. Yale focusing on groundwater,
biology, noise and traffic safety.
George Ravenscroft spoke with both John Peterson, the County
groundwater geologist and Doug Roff, Mr. Yale's hydrology consultant
regarding the importance of monitoring the water flow in Cedar Creek
for proper evaluation of the potential impacts of the Yale well.
George has an appointment with Mr. Roff next week for the installation
of meters to monitor water level and flow from the nearby Tainer
George Ravenscroft reported that the new Federal regulations regarding
spring water have been issued, pre-empting the State regulations. The
new Federal regulations favor the classification of well water as
spring water, since they do not include the clause requiring adjacency
of a well water source to a free-flowing stream.
Following his receipt of the County letter, Mr. Yale might go to a
meeting of the County Board of Supervisors to promote his project.
Bruce Graves gets the agenda for these meeting, but unannounced open
forum presentations are also allowed. Once a project is scheduled with
the County Board of Supervisors, the PMPO can no longer legally discuss
the project with individual Supervisors. Tom Burton will make sure
that Bill Horne, the new Supervisor for the Palomar area, is informed
of PMPO concerns prior to scheduling of the Yale project. George
Ravenscroft met with lawyers from Worley and Schwartz concerning water
rights law and the potential County liability from the issuing of
discretionary permits. Tom Burton will also check into Calvary
Chapel's interest and concerns for the Yale well project.
Approval was voted for payments of up to $2000 to Brian Mooney
Associates for their continued work in monitoring progress on the Yale
well project and keeping the County informed of PMPO concerns. Bruce
Graves will ask for itemized expense accounting for this work.
Bruce Graves noted that we need to begin
preparations for the May 1st fund-raising newsletter announcing the
Annual PMPO meeting. Photos are needed. George Ravenscroft will write
an article listing the past accomplishments of the PMPO. Susan Humason
will help with the newsletter preparation.
The PMPO's annual meeting is scheduled for
Saturday, May 25th, 1996 during Memorial Day weekend. A pancake
breakfast is planned at the Lodge, which Rick Healey reported that he
will soon be re-opening.
California Department of Forestry Nursery Closure
California Department of Forestry nursery program, which provides
site-specific native plants for reforestation by small landowners, has
again been threatened with immediate closure. John Tainer will draft a
letter of support from the PMPO for continuation of this program.
Robert Carlyle reported that trees were
being cut down to build a road on the Bailey subdivision adjacent to
his property. George Ravenscroft said that Bill Meyer had informed him
that this project had been approved in its revised form.